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Mar 18, 2020

"I spent half of my life lost in an education system that pushed for results and performance... and failed.. Even when I Began to perform well in undergrad and so on, I wasn't learning; I was performing."

In today's episode, we draw a distinction between "performing" and "learning," and what we can do to become deep learners.

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Show notes: 

1. For more on performing vs learning, check out the research done by Robert Bjork and his colleagues. 

Soderstrom, N. C., & Bjork, R. A. (2015). Learning Versus Performance: An Integrative Review. Perspectives on Psychological Science, 10(2), 176-199. doi:10.1177/1745691615569000 

2. For more about the Deep Learner web-based workshop, go to